SCO v. IBM

Message ID: 34751 Posted By: darlmclied Posted On: 2003-08-28 22:55:00 Subject: Six MONTHS and 1 alleged licensee. WOW. Recs: 0 Six MONTHS after they start making noise about wanting licensing fees. Six MONTHS after they file suit against IBM Four MONTHS after sending threatening letters to 1500 companies Six MONTHS worth of press releases threatening to sue people Six MONTHS worth of conferences threatening to sue people FIVE weeks the licensing has been available And there's one, One, ONE, count it with me, ONE licensee. A secret licensee who we don't know the name of. Good business plan, McBride. Since you served in Japan, McBride, I suggest Hari-Kari. "To the samurai, seppuku--whether ordered as punishment or chosen in preference to a dishonorable death at the hands of an enemy--was unquestionable demonstration of their honor, courage, loyalty, and moral character." -- h++p://victorian.fortunecity.com/duchamp/410/seppuku.html Sho...

Message ID: 34750 Posted By: darlmclied Posted On: 2003-08-28 22:53:00 Subject: want weeping, festering sores? buy SCO Recs: 0 It's a proven fact. Ask your doctor. Buy SCO stock and you will contract some horribly disfiguring dermatological disorder, with green pus oozing out making you stick to your bedsheets. And a smell like a mixture of infected toe jam, a mexican outhouse in August and really freaking bad BO. Wheee-ooo just makes me nauseous thinking about it. It's truly disgusting. Just ask Ledite & cyzq. Why do you think they keep recommending this stock? They don't want to suffer alone. You've been warned. : ) Don't believe me? OK, then, never mind. ; ) ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "darlmclied" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommer...

Message ID: 31931 Posted By: crunchie812 Posted On: 2003-08-23 12:55:00 Subject: Theft? Recs: 1 Someone put something of mine in your house. I am not going to tell you who did it. I am not going to tell you what it is. Give me money or I'll sue. Note that the one valuable item of code so far identified had been already removed from the 2.6 kernel. Not because it was suspected of infringing, but because it was crap. It was suggested they need better monitoring of contributions, not to guard against possible infringement, but to better identify who submits junk. My appologies to Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "crunchie812" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 -----------------------------------------------------------...

Message ID: 31599 Posted By: brightshiningreflection Posted On: 2003-08-22 16:23:00 Subject: SCO longs, have you asked? Recs: 6 The FAQ posted earlier is impressive. Every time you longs read a PR where Darl makes claims you should ask yourself, "What is the business plan of SCO? How do these actions and statements relate to that business plan?" Is the business plan to be the profitable supplier of unix? Is the business plan to squeeze money out of IBM and linux users? Is the business plan meant to help all shareholders long-term? How does MSFT's payment relate to the business plan? Does SCO really want to dismantle the GPL? Then why did it take them months after filing their suit to stop distributing linux under the GPL? Why didn't they cry, "Foul," from the gitgo and yank their linux from the market at the time of the original announcement of the suit? Look for consistency of motivation and action. If you find such consistency and it i...

Message ID: 31782 Posted By: bill_beebe Posted On: 2003-08-22 21:00:00 Subject: I Believe In Paying For Linux Recs: 4 < rant> I buy a new copy of SuSE ($79) every time they make a major release, and then upgrade my SuSE development and test system with it. I pay Redhat $60/year for a modest support subscription, and download their releases. It's installed on a second development and test system. I have a subscription with BSD Mall so I can get FreeBSD releases on CD-ROM (about $26/release, two to three times a year). I install and run it on yet another machine. In the past I've purchased software from Ximian, Borland, Microsoft, Adobe, Sun, and others over the last few decades. Note, however, what I pay for my software. I am quite willing to pay up to the low hundreds for my choice in software (yeah, I'm a geek). But I'm not going to pay high extortionist prices to SCO. I voted with my wallet long ago against the original SCO by first going to ...

Message ID: 27837 Posted By: bill_beebe Posted On: 2003-08-13 23:10:00 Subject: Dear ANALyst ledite: Recs: 15 You are, as usual, delusional. Many of us do indeed own stocks (outright or through other means) and we've taken time over the years to educate ourselves to the workings of the market in order to better profit from it. In fact it might interest you to know that IT technology plays a critical role the modern stock markets, technology built with and on top of Unix and similar operating systems. I have been programming systems since I was a junior in high school (1971). My first language was APL, and my first "personal computer" was an IBM 360 with a Dec printer/keyboard combination attached via a 300 bd acoustic coupled modem. From that simple time I've been both witness to and participant in the ongoing evolution of IT. During that time I have paid my dues and I have also paid (sometimes dearly) cold hard cash for goods and services rendered t...

Message ID: 25432 Posted By: leclite Posted On: 2003-08-08 13:40:00 Subject: $8 trillion = $4000000 per share! Recs: 2 buy now before SCO countersues IBM for $8 trillion and increases per seat linux licensing to $1M per seat! At .00001% compliance that is $4M per share! Warren Buffet, eat your heart out, the math doesn't lie! The sky is the limit with this gem! ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "leclite" under the following license: ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 24896 Posted By: mcbride4prison Posted On: 2003-08-07 15:20:00 Subject: Kernel cryptographically authenticated Recs: 0 And just to make completely sure that the kernel as downloaded from SCO is actually a real prestine linux kernel, I went through the "trouble" of extracting it and checking the signature. Here is an edited log (I've removed misstypings and such): mcbride4prison@nynaeve:~$ wget http://www.iagora.com/~espel/rpm2cpio --21:06:57-- http://www.iagora.com/%7Eespel/rpm2cpio => `rpm2cpio' Resolving www.iagora.com... done. Connecting to www.iagora.com[212.100.224.114]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 3,114 [text/plain] 100%[=================================================================>] 3,114 56.32K/s ETA 00:00 21:06:57 (56.32 KB/s) - `rpm2cpio' saved [3114/3114] mcbride4prison@nynaeve:~$ chmod +x rpm2cpio mcbride4prison@nynaeve:~$ ./rpm2cpio linux-...

Message ID: 24437 Posted By: diogenese19348 Posted On: 2003-08-06 22:05:00 Subject: An Observation or two... Recs: 3 Don’t take this as a threat to SCOX folks, it is not. Just a bemused observation. Has Darl McBride really considered what it means to piss off a whole planet of hackers at the same time? And piss them off when a large group of them are meeting in a convention center yet? Great business move. I suggest you keep some support staff, and back up your servers regularly. People who know more about how your software works than your company does really hate you at the moment. The SCOX case is of course worthless, and obviously so. They would have showed the code long before if it was not. They could have gotten their price from IBM and others, and closed the shop with a huge profit. I guess they got cocky with DrDos, which they bought from Digital Research. Yeah, they extorted some money from MicroSoft with that, but I assume it was more Monopoly...

Message ID: 24019 Posted By: diogenese19348 Posted On: 2003-08-05 21:27:00 Subject: Twas brillig and the slithy toabs... Recs: 2 Sorry, couldn't resist. Lewis Carol seems appropriate to this mess. This board has been an extremely interesting read all day. My viewpoint: First, I am not a Linux developer or user, though I was a SCO Unix developer at one time. That is Santa Cruz Organization Unix, not the current folks. Currently I am only developing in Windows. Secondly, I do not have, nor have I ever had, any stock in SCOX. And if I had any, I would sell it in a heartbeat. Which brings me to my opinion... I guess what I should point out first, is that SCOX did not write a single line of Unix code. Not one. What they did do is buy the rights to Unix from somebody else. Sort of like Michael Jackson buying the Beetles catalogue. The difference being, Michael Jackson does not have to sing like the Beetles, write like the Beetles, or play an instrument...

Message ID: 23375 Posted By: manyhats23 Posted On: 2003-08-04 21:08:00 Subject: Forget the Lawsuits -- SCO Can't Win Recs: 4 Even without the lawsuits and the weekly "Daryl Show," SCO will never, nor could ever, extract license revenue from every Linux user in the world. It is next to impossible to do, as Linux and the other tools have been disiminated far and wide. How can they know who is using Linux, and what versions? They can't. Going beyond that, SCO has publically stated that the alleged infringment only affects Linux version 2.4 and newer. So that means all those users who have older Linux versions do not have a problem. In looking at the market place, there are many companies and individuals still using that older code. That limits SCO's claims of alledged infringement, also. Lastly, having said all of this, SCO remains reluctant to produce the alledged infringing source code. They claim "hundreds of thousands" of lines, and ye...