SCO v. IBM

Message ID: 86641 Posted By: phandsvrta Posted On: 2004-01-28 16:23:00 Subject: MyDoom made local radio Recs: 0 in Ireland!! Tonight on the way home, the fact that there is a $250k reward for finding the <insert expletive of choice> who wrote MyDoom was on local radio in Dublin that's small time in the extreme). Unfortunately for Darl McTosspot, there wasn't the slightest mention of who or which company was putting up the money! I went from gloomy about it to being very elated that he had been denied the oxygen of publicity while the evil stupidity of virus writing was amplified. Paul ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "phandsvrta" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 86603 Posted By: preadapted Posted On: 2004-01-28 15:16:00 Subject: More new words Recs: 5 There seems to be some rust or SCOrrosion on your shit shovel there, Darly boy... I wonder if there will be any SCOrrupt politicians buying into Darly's little scam letter to SCOngress. Their whole SCOntemptible scam and litigation efforts will soon end up headed out to sea on a stinkin' garbage SCOw. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "preadapted" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------ 

Message ID: 85683 Posted By: jgabriel66 Posted On: 2004-01-26 16:45:00 Subject: APA & Amendment 2 Recs: 26 I've been saying this over & over again elsewhere, but no one seems to be picking up on it. Amendment 2 specifically states that the copyrights are excluded except for those "required for SCO to exercise its rights with respect to the acquisition of UNIX and UnixWare technologies." Now everyone here knows that, but they seem to be missing the fact that System V was *not* part of the technologies *acquired* by SCO, and therefore, none of the copyrights for System V could transfer under this amendment. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "jgabriel66" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 80797 Posted By: ColonelZen Posted On: 2004-01-14 11:04:00 Subject: Memo to the judge... Recs: 1 Please don't rip them a new one. The amount of excrement they produce is already overwhelming and I shudder to think what they could do with another... ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "ColonelZen" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------

Message ID: 80561 Posted By: atul666 Posted On: 2004-01-13 19:35:00 Subject: Look! It's Chewbacca! Recs: 4 I bet Darl & Co. would really like to change the subject right about now. I wonder how long it'll be before we see another mysterious "DDOS attack". Or maybe they'll dirty Darl up a bit and claim he was mugged by a pack of commie Linux hippies. My money's on the second strategy. They've already laid the groundwork for it with the whole bodyguards business. That was step one. Step two, stage a mugging at a convenient time, to distract from negative news in the IBM case. This shouldn't be hard. Just get one of those neato axe-through-the-head thingys at a local costume shop, and squirt some ketchup around to make it look gory. Write "Linux Was Here" in big letters at the crime scene, so it's absolutely clear who's supposed to have done this. Step three, Darl, Kevin, & co. fake their own deaths

Message ID: 79663 Posted By: preadapted Posted On: 2004-01-12 12:48:00 Subject: A different email to Dan Ackman Recs: 25 After reading Walters post and all the replies I felt compelled to send the following to MR. Ackman. "Thank you, Mr. Ackman for a relatively balanced article on the topic of SCO's claims of IP infringement associated with their lawsuit against IBM and ancillary threats of legal action against users of GNU Linux. I'm sure you have received a number of positive comments about this most recent article and very likely some abuse as well from a few of the more ardent supporters of free and open source software. I assure you sir that the vast majority of us are long time professionals and technicians in the business and far more interested in fair and equitable resolutions of such matters than in disparaging the character and reputations of our opponents and those who honestly attempt to journal our battles. While I am appreciative of y

Message ID: 79657 Posted By: ColonelZen Posted On: 2004-01-12 12:38:00 Subject: Re: I don't like the IBM Recs: 2 An interesting sentiment. With IBM, far more than most corporations, you have to remember that it isn't a monolith with a single personality. This, of course holds for MS and SCOX as well, but MS is basically a 'cult of personality' around BG and SCOX has devolved into a shell selling it's 'pump and dump' strategy while the Canopy shareholders maneuver to fleece the sheep. IBM too, you should remember is a 'convicted monopolist' ... albeit 30 years out. My carreer has tracked IBM as a techie... I began working as a sysprog on mainframes, In the early 90's the mainframe was dying and I thought IBM was at the end of days. I suffered periods of unemployment and thought IBM, as I had seen it represented by its mainframe reps was, if not evil at least ignorant and doomed by self absorbsion. ... I switched my focus to

Message ID: 79613 Posted By: thaddeusbeier Posted On: 2004-01-12 11:52:00 Subject: SCO's Legal Expenses Recs: 2 If you read the information that SCO has been putting out in it's various reports to the SEC, you will see that the 'retainer fund' that Boies&Co. required has been replenished a couple of times. This implies that their legal expenses for calendar year 2003 were on the order of $3 million. Think about it, for a minute, and project into the future. What did Boies do for his $3 million? There was really precious little product for that money. SCO's filings were pitiful and short, and they have really not begun to get into discovery. No litigation has happened yet. There have been only a very few court hearings, and the biggest one of those was run by Darl's brother. Yet, they managed to spend $3 million. If this charade of a trial continues, imagine what the costs will be? For this to go to trial, you would have to believ

Message ID: 79372 Posted By: b29651 Posted On: 2004-01-11 15:00:00 Subject: Re: I don't like the IBM Linux commerci Recs: 1 i wasnt going to get into this flame but changed my mind linux/penguins dont care if they want to get involved with linux linux will still exist that is what M$ cant stand that is why they are trying dirty underhanded tactics to fight but it wont work sco also tries to create situations to split the linux community factions that wont work either because the community is diverse culturally and in every way. i loved the IBM commercial it makes people wonder what is this *new*product and when people get curious they ask questions so the word will spread and by asking questions they will learn more than if IBM had just showed some of the program they raised the interest level very clever in my view -:) br3n ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed fo

Message ID: 79356 Posted By: diogenese19348 Posted On: 2004-01-11 13:42:00 Subject: Re: I don't like the IBM Recs: 1 << Then please take it elsewhere. Microsoft is a convicted abusive monopoly. A crime deserving of a corporate beheading. SCOX is trying to join these ranks. Thats not revisionary history. This is not a MSFT board. >> Strangely enough, he is correct. Much as I believe M$ is behind this mess (amd my tin foil hat is quite snug, thanks) Microsoft is where it is because everybody else screwed up. Lotus for example. Instead of improving its product, it sued Borland for, ahem, infringing on it. Look and feel. Lotus was a prostitute. It no longer exists. DBase. The premier name in database engines. Instead of improving, it sued anybody that used its language. Guess what? It does not exist anymore. Word Perfect was the wild card. It never sued anybody. It sold itself to Novell. Which sold it to Corel after the brand was gutted. Al

Message ID: 79345 Posted By: preadapted Posted On: 2004-01-11 11:31:00 Subject: Re: I don't like the IBM Linux commerci Recs: 8 Excellent link,extremely entertaining, thanks a bunch. My girlfriend (ITC, U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer w/ 23 years data process/IT/SysAdmin, about to retire and move into civilian IT admin) and I (QA Manager/senior IT staffer, 35 years telecommunications electronics/metrology/satellite tech and networking) were watching the Titans and Panthers having a go at it last night when we saw the IBM Linux commercial,the one with the male child dresed in white for the first time. We just turned and stared at each other on the couch and our jaws hanging. Some pretty good media psycholigists must have breathed into this one. It caught our attention immediately due to the "apparent" strangeness of it right down till the closing shot. I suspect it had a similar "gotcha" effect on most of the viewers who hadn't run to the fr

Message ID: 79324 Posted By: bill_beebe Posted On: 2004-01-10 23:12:00 Subject: Re: I don't like the IBM Linux commerci Recs: 0 << They're lame and they don't tell me anything about the product. I don't buy it. >> I agree. Marketing is not IBM's forte. Merrill Chapman, in his book "In Search Of Stupidity", devotes an entire chapter to IBM's singular marketing disaster, OS/2. That chapter, titled "The Idiot Piper: OS/2 and IBM", gives great details on how IBM killed OS/2 and led a lot of other companies over the cliff at the same time. The section on Warp was tragic and funny: "The result was that IBM ended up creating a very odd advertising and marketing campaign redolent of hash brownies and magic mushrooms. Twisty "Age of Aquarius" type was splashed across ad posters all over the land, proclaiming that people were "Warping" their computers. Edwin Black, publisher of OS/2 Professional ma

Message ID: 79319 Posted By: walterbyrd Posted On: 2004-01-10 22:53:00 Subject: Re: I don't like the IBM Linux commercia Recs: 0 >> They're lame and they don't tell me anything about the product.<< For once I agree. Although, I think most commercials are lame, and don't tell me much about the product. I assume you mean the "his name is Linux" commercial - that one is really stupid. The little poem commercials aren't so bad. ------------------------------------------------------------ The text of this Yahoo Message Board post has been licensed for copying and distribution by the Yahoo Message Board user "walterbyrd" under the following license: License:  CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike v2.0 ------------------------------------------------------------